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  1. Krishnan
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  3. 03 March 2019
The Self is difficult to realise.
Verse 2.29
One sees this as a wonder, another speaks of This as a wonder; another Hears of this wonder; yet, having heard none understand.

WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WORDS NONE UNDERSTANDS. WHY NONE

The purpose of Gita is to understand?
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Hari Om Krishnanji,
From Swamiji's sessions of 2nd chapter - Although body, mind, senses are propelled by the Self, it is beyond the body, mind, and senses. According to the Upanishads, "Yato vAco nivartante aprApya manasah sa" .So it is not grasped by the intellect. The Infinite cannot be described in finite words, cannot be perceived with our senses, nor understood with our intellect. Those who have Realized the Truth sees it with wonder, also unable to express what they have experienced, through words and hence they talk about it in wonder; we have not yet experienced it, we have no idea what it means, it's far beyond our senses, mind and intellect and hence we listen to the Mahatmas expounding the Truth in great wonder.
Truth has to be experienced by ourselves.
Pranams,
Vanaja
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  1. Mridula
  2. 6 months ago
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HariOm,
Vanaja ji is right. Seeing, hearing and speaking are all actions of our mundane senses, which are not capable of perceiving and describing extra-sensory phenomena. It is possible only with Yogi-pratyaksha. Therefore the self, which transcends our body and mind, is only an object of wonder as long as we are entrapped at that level.

Regards,
Mridula.
  1. Krishnan
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I think the response of Vanaja ji was to say even with Yogi Prataksha it cant be perceived and hence is a wonder even for realised beings who are eligible for liberation, if I may say so. The Lord also none understand. Hence my query.
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Yet, having heard none understands This at all! (Just by hearing)

The self is quite difficult to realize for most since it is beyond the senses and due to ignorance. Even after hearing the knowledge (Jnana), it is difficult to get established in the knowledge. However it does not mean it is not accessible to all. We know there are realized masters.

There is another interpretation to this verse:

श्रुत्वाप्येनं वेद न चैव कश्चित्
even after hearing about him, some (कश्चित् ) cannot understand him at all.

That is why there are Guru and Shastras to give the Vijnana practices to go beyond the senses and come to the understanding.

brahma-vidyayam yoga-sastre sri-krishnarjuna-samvade

Hari Om
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'It' cannot be understood purely using intellect, because 'It' is what Powers the intellect and so its impossible to reach 'it' purely using intellect. To give an analogy, an electric lamp can illuminate everything, but can never illuminate the electricity that powers it. The self can only be experienced, never understood. What can be understood is the means to reach that experience, and to gain that understanding , we require the kripa of a Guru. And each chapter of Bhagavad Gita is suffixed with Yoga, to indicate that by studying and understanding it, you gain the knowledge of the means to gain that experience of Union.
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